This is a fun quote to contemplate. I find it very important in form, push hands and sword play. Many people are so invested in ’doing it right’ and trying to ‘get’ the other person they loose the perspective that the principles – for today – are focused on self reflection. In my humble opinion when I practice it is more about how I am sensing. Don’t get me wrong, it is true that the body/mind/spirit mechanics that engage the ego have a role in realigning, but the ‘form‘ is a vehicle for change (I Ching). In push hands and sword play, it is more about changes in perspective relative to another person’s force and ’responding‘ appropriately, not about ‘getting’ them. Master Young